So when I moved [to New York], another group that I fell in love with that finally took me over into total drum geekdom was when I heard Meshuggah. I just lost my shit. I’m going to see them this month; I’ll be there. I gotta go, just because… And I saw Slayer the last time they were here with Megadeth, at the island. Not the one with Metallica, but the one before that. I was about to go to the one at Yankee Stadium, because I wanted to see Lombardo whip on Lars. I just wanted to see that happen. [Laughs] I just wanted to see it go down. How are you going to get onstage…? Okay, you’ve got more hits, whatever. But how are you going to physically get on that stage? And then, [Lombardo’s] still the only guy that doesn’t really use triggers! Fucking awesome, and it still sounds meaty, because you’re still getting the articulation because of how he plays, technique, and also how he tunes, the type of beaters he probably goes into, multiple mics—mic in, mic out, resonant side… That’s how you do it in the studio to get articulation, so why wouldn’t it work live?